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Post by TakingBackUSA on May 2, 2017 18:32:39 GMT
In reference to your discussion on Our Entropic World - tapyoureit.boards.net/post/4 I'm still having some difficulty in relating Energy & Human labor to Money. "Money, after all, is nothing more than stored energy credits." Money (Currency) is technically nothing more than an arbitrary measure of real value, like a scale for weight or a ruler for length. It has no extended or stored value other than what it is used for; the exchange of goods & services. A trainload of scales & rulers is just that. Any other perception or use of money is a corruption of its intended use and is unethical. That's why we abhor the Money Masters. They control the supply of scales & rulers to the detriment of those who need to weigh & measure. Human labor is one source of energy. That energy is expressed in the form of the individuals set of skills, from very simple manual labor to highly trained & skilled mental & physical skills. Mental skills that develop and use technology are currently much more in demand and are inherently more valuable than low-skill manual labor. One's 'bliss' may come with a considerable expenditure of time & 'energy' and may require or justify substantially greater 'social-currency'. Time is limited, even if 'energy' or 'money' are not. Other energy sources are developed through human ingenuity. From the most primitive state, we forage for wild fruits, roots, we use other animals for food or labor. With simple technology, we extract energy from wood & coal fire, water wheels, animal-drawn implements. The point being, it is our human intellect that empowers us to find & use other forms of available energy sources whether we are aware of those resources or not, as with the Black projects. The potential for human progress is our intellect and also the greatest under-developed source of power for good. If we substitute the word 'intellect' for the word 'energy' . . . Entropy… That measure of disorder that increases as intellect is dissipated into unusable forms effects many aspects of our present human condition. The importance of education in an ethical society is essential to the survival of civilization. We must continue to spread the word. Thank you for your commitment. |
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Post by Amaterasu Solar on May 2, 2017 19:05:18 GMT
You say: Money accounts for Human energy added into a system. It may also be used as a measure of "value" - but what is "value?" It is a production of Human energy seen as desirable. A trainload of anything is a result of Human energy expended - to create the train, to create the product, to load it onto the train. Goods and services spring from Human energy, and, like the tokens We might use for money, represent Human energy expended. Human labor/energy is the FOUNDATION of all things seen as "valuable." Irrespective of the skill-set of any Individual, what results is the product of Human energy, be it in goods and services, or in mental energy providing ideas and plans. The results ALL represent that Human energy. Who are We to judge how much time/energy any Other might choose to spend on Their bliss? If it is Their bliss, Their social currency, first and foremost, is Self-satisfaction. What does it matter about time being limited? Yes, "ingenuity" is Human energy put forth as new ideas, the product of that Human energy. As for the rest, there, I agree. But without Human energy input, all those products (food hand to mouth, digging for metals, directing animals, building, forging, designing, planning), none would exist as representations of Human energy expended. Agreed. Except that is an invalid substitution. The intellect is not the energy. It is the tool. The energy is in using the tool. It is like saying the shovel digs the dirt. But the shovel does nothing; We must expend the energy to use the shovel to dig the dirt. Now this is a true statement. You might check out My piece, Thoughts About Teaching Children: tapyoureit.boards.net/thread/8/thoughts-teaching-childrenIndeed. And You're most welcome. Death will not release Me. [smile] |
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Post by takingbackamerica on May 3, 2017 19:08:23 GMT
I'd like to address some of the underlying issues.
First & foremost, Unethical behavior.
We must continue to educate ourselves and each other in what constitutes ethical behavior and of the consequences of unethical behavior. Understanding and Awareness.
And, where there is evidence of unethical behavior, especially of those who serve in high levels of authority and responsibility, we must demand appropriate prosecution.
The massive amount of misinformation and obfuscation of information for the purpose of manipulation and control is a major problem in our world.
The opportunity to discover and educate others of the consequences of unethical behavior as well as promoting ethical behavior has never been more possible than now with the appropriate use of the 'internet'.
I think that 'we' must establish a web-based 'Stigmergic Collaboration' ASAP.
We need to develop a central unifying interest, with a viable pathway for a transition to a new social order, appealing to a broad cross-section of humanity.
Perhaps this should be 'the first order of business', to poll for that top priority unifying concern.
What say you?
Best regards |
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Post by Amaterasu Solar on May 3, 2017 22:26:13 GMT
I'd like to address some of the underlying issues. First & foremost, Unethical behavior. We must continue to educate ourselves and each other in what constitutes ethical behavior and of the consequences of unethical behavior. Understanding and Awareness. There are three Laws of Ethics... tapyoureit.boards.net/thread/15/ancient-laws-ethicsI think You might be not grasping what I offer here at this site - a way to do things such that there is None "serv[ing] in high levels of authority and responsibility." No rulers, three "rules" (Laws). Also, We are all both subject to and judge of those Laws, solving Ethically for the problem(s) Any create by breaking them by Those who care. "Demanding prosecution" is something done in top-down systems that have a legal system - and the legal system is used to thwart Ethics more often that serve them. (They are now trying to make it legal to experiment on Us without Our consent!!! How unEthical is THAT???) Only because We are consenting to Their systems - They being the psychopaths in control. Their systems promote psychopaths. When enough of Us have withdrawn consent and consented to a better way of doing things - and I suggest I offer a better way - We WILL create better on Our planet, stolen from Us through trusts and deceit by the psychopaths in control. This I agree with fully. That is what I have been working on for a long while. This site, for instance. I figure that I may inspire People who can to experiment with free energy and share successes with Humanity freely. To build a web of servers around the planet with no central backbone with a mirrored, open-source a governance site to report problems on as I outline in The End of Entropy here, second post, within that analysis: tapyoureit.boards.net/thread/2/abundance-paradigm-foundational-writingsYou mean a corporation? An organization? Not sure what You are envisioning here. I would think that psychopaths in control should be (and is) the top concern. That is what I solve for... Anything less diverts the energy to lesser (and in the end ineffectual) goals. If the foundational problem is not solved for, all else is overall moot. I think I have had My say. [smile] |
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Post by TakingBackUSA on May 4, 2017 20:58:56 GMT
I posted this, but it showed up under a different profile  I'd like to address some of the underlying issues.
First & foremost, Unethical behavior.
We must continue to educate ourselves and each other in what constitutes ethical behavior and of the consequences of unethical behavior. Understanding and Awareness.
And, where there is evidence of unethical behavior, especially of those who serve in high levels of authority and responsibility, we must demand appropriate prosecution.
The massive amount of misinformation and obfuscation of information for the purpose of manipulation and control is a major problem in our world.
The opportunity to discover and educate others of the consequences of unethical behavior as well as promoting ethical behavior has never been more possible than now with the appropriate use of the 'internet'.
I think that 'we' must establish a web-based 'Stigmergic Collaboration' ASAP.
We need to develop a central unifying interest, with a viable pathway for a transition to a new social order, appealing to a broad cross-section of humanity.
Perhaps this should be 'the first order of business', to poll for that top priority unifying concern.
What say you?
Best regards |
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Post by Amaterasu Solar on May 4, 2017 22:00:49 GMT
I posted this, but it showed up under a different profile I'd like to address some of the underlying issues.
... I rather thought that both profiles were You... [smile] Not sure how You managed to sign in under the old account. [shrug] EDIT to add: That profile was set up in Aug. 2015... |
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