The bottom line on getting an aero L39 jet pilots license
Dec 12, 2019 23:59:57 GMT
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Post by LUCKY☆ on Dec 12, 2019 23:59:57 GMT
I was looking into what it takes to get a jet plane license.of course the internet has lots of maybes and my friend said etc.i culled through all the bullshit i could and so if somebody was to want to get an aero L39 trainer jet,heres the cheapest way ive found to get it.i may be mistaken but i doubt im off the mark by much.if i find out differently,ill update this thread.
First off you need a private pilots license,you got to get an faa physical first,then the schooling runs currently about 10 to 20 thousand dollars.takes about 40-60hours of flying time.
Then the cheapest way to go next is buy a cessna 150 with low but not zero hours on an engine.this runs less than 40 thousand dollars currently.you want one that still has a 1000 hours left on the engine before a rebuild is required.it has to have ifr gauges,so you can get your instrument rating plus experience using instruments.
You then fly that plane for 1000 hours.you will need oil changes every fifty hours,so plan for 20 oil changes.if you flew that plane twenty four hours a day,landing only for fuel it would take less than two months.nobody can do that normally but it gets you an idea of the magic bottom limit.you can fly it in circles if you wish.the requirement is 1000hrs.500 of that is called pilot in control or pic.avgas is averaging 4$ a gallon,thats 24 dollars an hour at 6gph.so 24k in fuel.
Once that is done,you now qualify to go to a school on jets.there are two classes.the first class is 3 days and is 2700 dollars.
The second class is flying with instructor in jet.
Thats 27000 dollars and takes about 6-8 days.
You are now a jet pilot.
The aero L39 cost currently between 250k and 450k.minumum fuel fill up is 1700ish dollars at 4.00 a gallon.it gets you over 750nautical miles in distance at around 460 mph.so basically 2 dollars a mile.
The new or rebuilt engine is around 200k.every 1000 hours.thats 500k miles.most folks will never reach that distance in their lifetime,so basically the planes are like a boat.you aint buying the plane,you are buying the engine.the plane is basically free.
One guy i read wrote,why buy another engine,just buy another plane!
You also have to have the plane inspected yearly and thats 10-20k plus recertification on license is 3k unless using your own plane,then its way less.so basically about 27k or less per year.plus fuel.
Post edit:
The fuel cost were double what i thought what fuel cost.i changed it and added some more stuff as i learned more about them.its currently at local airport running close to 4$ a gallon.
The mileage was off too.its about 2$ a mile.
The good part is barring bad weather,you can get almost anywhere in the usa from texas in two hours and no stinky fellow sits next to you.no long checkout lines either.the whole goal of this thread is to give people an idea of the bottom line start to finish.there was nobody i could find on the www that had worked this all out.since i started,ive found out theres some gov rule about an oil test that can be used to justify a longer time limit on engine.i think a certified lab just looks for nano particles of bearing wear.if low numbers show up under microscope,then its cleared to keep flying.
this sounds to me like a brilliant idea.a safe way to go.those engines are too expensive to just go out and have them rebuilt because they"may",fail.
im not an expert on planes, im not a mechanic of jet engines.i am a hardcore shade tree mechanic.i can make almost anything run if i have a tube of jb weld and a tube of silicone!
First off you need a private pilots license,you got to get an faa physical first,then the schooling runs currently about 10 to 20 thousand dollars.takes about 40-60hours of flying time.
Then the cheapest way to go next is buy a cessna 150 with low but not zero hours on an engine.this runs less than 40 thousand dollars currently.you want one that still has a 1000 hours left on the engine before a rebuild is required.it has to have ifr gauges,so you can get your instrument rating plus experience using instruments.
You then fly that plane for 1000 hours.you will need oil changes every fifty hours,so plan for 20 oil changes.if you flew that plane twenty four hours a day,landing only for fuel it would take less than two months.nobody can do that normally but it gets you an idea of the magic bottom limit.you can fly it in circles if you wish.the requirement is 1000hrs.500 of that is called pilot in control or pic.avgas is averaging 4$ a gallon,thats 24 dollars an hour at 6gph.so 24k in fuel.
Once that is done,you now qualify to go to a school on jets.there are two classes.the first class is 3 days and is 2700 dollars.
The second class is flying with instructor in jet.
Thats 27000 dollars and takes about 6-8 days.
You are now a jet pilot.
The aero L39 cost currently between 250k and 450k.minumum fuel fill up is 1700ish dollars at 4.00 a gallon.it gets you over 750nautical miles in distance at around 460 mph.so basically 2 dollars a mile.
The new or rebuilt engine is around 200k.every 1000 hours.thats 500k miles.most folks will never reach that distance in their lifetime,so basically the planes are like a boat.you aint buying the plane,you are buying the engine.the plane is basically free.
One guy i read wrote,why buy another engine,just buy another plane!
You also have to have the plane inspected yearly and thats 10-20k plus recertification on license is 3k unless using your own plane,then its way less.so basically about 27k or less per year.plus fuel.
Post edit:
The fuel cost were double what i thought what fuel cost.i changed it and added some more stuff as i learned more about them.its currently at local airport running close to 4$ a gallon.
The mileage was off too.its about 2$ a mile.
The good part is barring bad weather,you can get almost anywhere in the usa from texas in two hours and no stinky fellow sits next to you.no long checkout lines either.the whole goal of this thread is to give people an idea of the bottom line start to finish.there was nobody i could find on the www that had worked this all out.since i started,ive found out theres some gov rule about an oil test that can be used to justify a longer time limit on engine.i think a certified lab just looks for nano particles of bearing wear.if low numbers show up under microscope,then its cleared to keep flying.
this sounds to me like a brilliant idea.a safe way to go.those engines are too expensive to just go out and have them rebuilt because they"may",fail.
im not an expert on planes, im not a mechanic of jet engines.i am a hardcore shade tree mechanic.i can make almost anything run if i have a tube of jb weld and a tube of silicone!