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Post by coldtoon on Nov 12, 2014 17:25:10 GMT
There is a new annoying and harmful trend among the police force called civil asset forfeiture it has reached new heights recently with seminars even called “Policing for Profit” on teaching police on how to abuse this law and be right in doing so by seeing that they are helping their department in a way help their community. I wish to find ways to prevent innocent citizens from predatory police stealing their hard worked for resources(work converted to money, property) . any ideas? Sources: www.activistpost.com/2014/11/civil-forfeiture-seminar-gurus-teach.html
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Post by Amaterasu Solar on Nov 12, 2014 17:33:32 GMT
Yes indeed! The "War on Drugs" was one of the first openings to this. In a number of places, merely the ACCUSATION of involvement with "illegal" drugs allows for seizure of assets. In about 80% of the cases of seizure no charges are filed. And, in most cases, the accused never sees a penny returned.
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Post by coldtoon on Nov 12, 2014 17:37:12 GMT
this pretty much procures free energy for the few as the people have to give human energy to get "money" energy only to have it "stolen" away by those meant to keep such energy in the right hands
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Post by Amaterasu Solar on Nov 12, 2014 17:44:32 GMT
Yes. As for ideas on how to solve for this, that is what My work is all about. Freeing Us to ALL live as richly as We choose, with emergent governance (as opposed to governMENT - controlMIND) via the web. Details are in the thread found here: tapyoureit.boards.net/thread/2/abundance-paradigm-foundational-writingsThanks for bringing these issues to the fore, ct!
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Post by coldtoon on Nov 12, 2014 17:54:28 GMT
tis more of a rant then any thing but to see people acting to fix it eases my heart a little it's sad our way of life has come to this
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Post by Amaterasu Solar on Nov 12, 2014 18:41:25 GMT
I agree that the psychopaths at the top of the money/power heap have created a mess, both in terms of social construct and in pollution and havoc on this planet. I surely wish We had free energy made available to Us when We first discovered how to extract usable energy from the aether - at least 60 years ago. A large part of the mess could have been avoided. But We have what We have to work with, and not what We wish We had. So...
We have some cleaning up to do. And thus My efforts to git 'er done. [smile]
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Post by coldtoon on Dec 23, 2014 1:34:59 GMT
in my book the first thing to cleaning up is to make a list so i ask what is on that list
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Post by Amaterasu Solar on Dec 23, 2014 2:30:42 GMT
Well... I think GMO and the poisons They have sprayed are quite important. Cleaning the oceans, cleaning radioactivity, planting new forests where the old have been destroyed for profit... I am sure there are many local issues all over the planet, but those are the big ones.
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Post by coldtoon on Dec 23, 2014 8:11:46 GMT
ok so GMO labeling? to drive out the poison by making it worthless
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Post by Amaterasu Solar on Dec 23, 2014 17:12:01 GMT
BAN it. Ban any unconfined growing of GMO. To knowingly grow it unconfined breaks the first Ethical Law. Given the evidence that GMO is harmful and gene drift is a clear and present danger in unconfined growing of GMO, it is clear that knowingly growing it in the open threatens ALL of Us. It is unEthical.
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Post by coldtoon on Dec 23, 2014 20:53:09 GMT
how do we stop it from spreading it is like a zombie virus of the plant world
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Post by Amaterasu Solar on Dec 23, 2014 21:11:41 GMT
Well, We have to start testing (while banning new crops) what's out there, and destroying anything that shows contamination. Yes, a LOT of effort. The psychopaths have made a HUGE mess. But sooner or later, We will have it cleaned up.
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Post by coldtoon on Dec 24, 2014 8:33:34 GMT
while being dumbed down by all we are already eating
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Post by Amaterasu Solar on Dec 24, 2014 23:32:49 GMT
We'd better hurry, then, eh? Enough of Us are bright enough still...
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Post by dan1 on Jan 28, 2015 22:37:31 GMT
It seems to me that controlled substances and the tools (including illegal firearms) that augment and enable the commission of crime, should be "seized" by the Community (which was endangered by the criminal activity) as determined under the application of the "Three Laws Of Ethics".
Perhaps it would be more appropriate for a special department to do the "seizing" and itemizing of this kind of property?
However, there is other property that may not directly be part of the illegal activity, that should not be "seized".
Housing, if being bought by the proceeds of the criminal activity, should not be seized by the Community, but should be foreclosed by the lender/contractor (bank) if payments stop, due to the criminal being in custody AND his or her Family (if they have one) being unable to make the payments. A careful look should be made as to the involvement of the Family...all parts of the Family...so as to find out the culpability of its members in the crimes. The Family may have to be "broken up", for the sake of "innocent" children. (Personal Opinion: Those who cannot get through Life without committing transgressions against the "Three Laws Of Ethics" have no right to breed.)
Vehicles: Were they used in the commission of the crimes? Here again, if members of the Family, that have been found not part of the criminal activity and that it was done without their knowledge and involvement, should have the legal possession and use of the vehicles found on the land and in the household where the crime was found.
I think the same for personal items.
The Community should have a functional and efficient apparatus in place to make sure that all, that the police confiscate, is accounted for and justly used for the benefit of the Community.
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Post by Amaterasu Solar on Jan 29, 2015 3:14:56 GMT
Seized by Whom? There are no "departments." No top-down governMENT (controlMIND). First, I would not take weapons away but rather, ALL may choose to have them - AND the shielding that electrogravitics and other technology offer. We would all presume everyOne armed - and shielded. It is unEthical to force anOther to be unarmed unless They are choosing unEthical behavior.
Second, there will be no "illegal" substances, since there will be little in the way of a legal system. Three Laws. Only. Since there is nothing unEthical in the choice to ingest any substance, We will not "regulate" that. We will deal with any problems created by that choice based on Ethics.
As it will be that One may acquire a home freely, there is no such thing as "bought by the proceeds of the criminal activity." No payments to be made, no exchange needed. Yes, We will move in to solve for child abuse of any kind. Such behavior is unEthical. But breeding is not, and so We do not impose on that issue.
Vehicles will be freely available. No payments to be made, no exchange needed. So being concerned relative to them will be pointless.
Any community may choose any statutes, mandates, bills, edicts, codes, declarations, rules, regulations, the group are WILLING to live by, within the Laws of Ethics, with the understanding that if a choice is made by the locals that One cannot abide, One has the FREEDOM to leave, to seek out Those One DOES accord with. Because One may have what One chooses, including a home, transportation, tools and materials to create as gives One joy, "crime" as We know it today, will not exist. With the exception of interpersonal relationships, which on a rare occasion create the problem of breached Ethics, all Ethical breaching is for money/profit/power-over-Others/psychopathic motive.
We remove all that motive (except the psychopathy on an Individual level where Those affected can call for judgement) by removing the need for money. Redefine "productive member of society" to mean Those who choose to add energy towards the betterment, be it in arts or sciences. Those who solve problems will be rich in fame, thanks, appreciation, honor, status, and likely Self-satisfaction.
Communities will form, with the freedom to move where We choose within Ethics of respect for the space Others live in, likely never having more than about 150 of Us, composed of Ones with common bonds. Some will be arts oriented, some science oriented. Some will be religion oriented, many will be based on common pastimes like a sport, a needlework, playing games, even listening to emergency bands and responding when a call for help comes in.
Yes, it is a paradigm shift. We stop making Others do (or NOT do) anything. We address the Ethics of any problem that We encounter. We who care are empowered by ways to solve for what We see, as opposed to expecting someOne to solve things for Us, including things that are not really problems but get Us to respond a certain way... And We only have to deal with the Individual crimes Being to Being. Not crimes of manufactured scarcity, strings on puppets creating the NWO...
Psychopaths in control.
This is freedom ringing throughout Humanity. For freedom is the ability to choose from the widest array possible within only three Laws - the three Laws of Ethics.
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