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Post by coldtoon on Dec 23, 2014 1:19:47 GMT
Day in and out I see more and more DRM, copyrights and patients that end up hindering progress of many things be it to add safety to a product or ad a new feature to a dated item. Here i see all these lawsuits for just about anything! I sit here and ask my self why did the ice man not sue the refrigerator companies? some times unwanted things need to die in order to progress in life so why do we need copyright when we have open web with the choice of paywalls. I ask why does an artist need someone that takes 90% of what they earn to "protect" them then use it to sue their very fans? What I see here is purely stolen work energy for artiest stuck in contracts. What i am asking here is how can we reform them a way to make money without the copyright BS?(incomplete thought but oh well)
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Post by Amaterasu Solar on Dec 23, 2014 2:22:45 GMT
Digital rights management become moot, as do copyright and patents, in the abundance paradigm... There is no need. The Individuals that choose to contribute will earn status, fame, appreciation, and other social currencies for Their personal contributions. To claim anOthers' work is to open Oneself to a loss in status. The truth will be easy to prove, and the One making false claims will become pariah.
With only the three Laws of Ethics, there will be no such things as "lawsuits." We will judge on evidence whether one (or more) of the three Laws has been broken and, within the Laws, determine the punishment, from pariahhood to permanent confinement for Those We see as a continued threat.
And so... T.A.P. will solve for these issues We have now.
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Post by coldtoon on Dec 23, 2014 8:08:43 GMT
but for now we need to cave this false notion of need for copyright
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Post by Amaterasu Solar on Dec 23, 2014 17:16:47 GMT
As long as there is a profit motive, Those who feel "protected" by such "laws" will fight tooth and nail FOR copyright. So though We might eventually succeed, that road is VERY long and VERY hard. Better We share awareness that We can change it all up for vastly the better by eliminating profit as motive. The creators of things (anything) will get credit, not corporations, and again, such "laws" become moot, their only purpose being to protect profit.
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Post by coldtoon on Dec 23, 2014 20:56:54 GMT
well i see hope in kim dot com's program the one where people can watch ads to pay for music where the artiest gets 93% of the money insted of us being over charged for it
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Post by Amaterasu Solar on Dec 23, 2014 21:16:37 GMT
No matter what, as long as We have money in this society, We have problems - BIG problems - mainly because there will always be People seeking a way to take more money. While what Kim suggests is a "solution" of sorts, it does not solve the foundational problems. Might work for a while, but sooner or later it will be corrupted. (And I abhor every commercial I have been forced to watch... How many Others will not go past that block?)
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Post by dan1 on Jan 28, 2015 21:51:43 GMT
Ok. There is a lot I am not in touch with about the issues brought here by "coldtoon". I surely lack sophistication about these abuses of patent controls.
But...it seems to me that the actual built invention (that successfully functions as it was intended and designed to do) should take precedence over the copyrighted idea. The idea does not do the actual work of benefit, but the tool that comes from the idea does. Especially if the invention, that is built, is beneficial to Humanity...or some of Humanity. I'm thinking that, though the idea for something is Good, it is not as Good as the actual realization/construction and resultant service to Humanity of it.
Of course We The People Of America and Earth, should apply the "Three Laws Of Ethics" to this ongoing problem...to determine if the actual invention is beneficial to Us. For example: All the ideas coming out of Einstein and others regarding nuclear physics should have stayed in idea form only...as a sign post of what to watch out for and avoid. ( Particularly on Our World)
Observation: Other countries are not honoring the patents and have no qualms about using the patented ideas, or making copies of the built inventions, in their quest for prosperity.
Thought: Maybe We The People should not hesitate to build inventions, that are patented as ideas, that would improve Our state in Life. The idea patents should not have the power to prevent the construction of the item of service.
Thought: However...maybe it would be within the parameters of the "Three Laws Of Ethics" to reward the author of the idea with a fair portion of any financial gain, that might accrue...at least up to the wonderful moment that We decide that monetary mediums of exchange are no longer needed by Our Species and that "kudo" rewards are the most desirable, for Us, after all...part of the Social End State Ideal of "The Abundance Paradigm".
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Post by Amaterasu Solar on Jan 29, 2015 4:00:28 GMT
All copyright and patents (and a whole lot of legal mumbo jumbo) become moot in TAP. Because it's all to protect profits. It will be seen as very bad taste to claim anOther's work - proof is usually at hand but frequently suppressed by this arcane system We have.
So We can stand proudly on Our work, as Individuals. Earn bragging rights for it... Corporations will not exist (profit being the only raison d'etre for all corporations), but I expect a resurgence of guilds.
And by the way... I had a friend who was a roadie for an inventor that had invented a way to draw energy magnetically. They were on the road trying to gain investors. One day the FBI swooped in, took all the equipment, and arrested the inventor for...patent infringement. Not sure how long He was sentenced to, but He lost His case.
I suppose if enough of Us did that We could break that system, as They wouldn't have enough toadies to handle it all.
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Post by dan1 on Jan 29, 2015 4:49:06 GMT
" Corporations will not exist (profit being the only raison d'etre for all corporations), but I expect a resurgence of guilds."
Ahhh! Such a fine song You sing.
So much harm has been done by capitalism and corporations and the little "e" elite of greed and their minions.
Oh for We The People Of Earth to finally say ENOUGH IS ENOUGH!!!
Guilds seem Good to me. The ways to preserve knowledge of How To Make Things...and to make things Better.
"One day the FBI swooped in, took all the equipment, and arrested the inventor for...patent infringement. Not sure how long He was sentenced to, but He lost His case.
I suppose if enough of Us did that We could break that system, as They wouldn't have enough toadies to handle it all."
Well said. We must learn to use Our advantage of numbers efficiently...not as the "mob" they see Us as.
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Post by Amaterasu Solar on Jan 29, 2015 19:13:42 GMT
We will come together, I do not doubt. [smile]
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