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Post by LUCKY☆ on Feb 8, 2020 3:11:55 GMT
Bump for first post edit of this is PROPRIETERY KNOWLEDGE.
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Post by LUCKY☆ on Feb 8, 2020 3:16:05 GMT
As humidity buffers hurricanes,it would be an increased safety margin for coastal borders.due to the evaporation technique.
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Post by LUCKY☆ on Feb 8, 2020 3:19:07 GMT
A self sustaining algae racetrack farm and bio oil process run by solar evaporation.
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Post by LUCKY☆ on Feb 8, 2020 3:29:12 GMT
This may have hydro electrict power generation potential also.
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Post by LUCKY☆ on Feb 8, 2020 3:50:19 GMT
For the suction pipe to work within parameters.the depth of the track would need to stay the same.otherwise an undertow current would form as dense saltwater ran down hill.a slope could possibly be used instead of a pipe and a kind of baffle and accumulator barrier could possibly used at end.but then high salt concentrations may not form at end of track.the pipe increases the chances that it will.as the high density salt water would be forced to keep moving forward and not have as high a chance of creating a reverse current.
This could also be done using an ever decreasing spiral on a plot of land or ever increasing spiral.any geometric shape,zigzag etc.
It could even be a squared spiral.the spiral rate of width change is determined by the evaporation rate in that ecological temperature zone and could be averaged for that evaporation rate zone.49 to 1 was based on a figure I got from a desert region with an evaporation rate of a quarter inch per day.so on a foot depth trench,that was 48 feet days of flow would evaporate all the water.
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Post by LUCKY☆ on Feb 8, 2020 4:13:06 GMT
Each of these ideas could have a self sustaining seed pond that works off spiral flow to feed a small percentage of algae, that's the starter algae for the racetrack beginning.
A baffle could cut the percentage from the spiral to feed the racetrack entrance.this baffle would be set at the growth rate of the seed pond to not cut out more than the percentage that will grow back in a day.the length of the track is determined by the growth and death rate.
Hmm almost sounds like a Chinese population plan.
The Georgia guidestones! Lol!
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Post by LUCKY☆ on Feb 8, 2020 4:21:00 GMT
Since these are long triangles,two opposing triangles would give two opposing end point oil depots on a rectangular plot,if this was built along a highway.
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Post by LUCKY☆ on Feb 8, 2020 4:25:53 GMT
you can have 300,000vehicles traveling one direction on that highway every year,at 30mpg.ish!
300miles÷30mpg=10gallons.
3,000,000gallons÷10gallons=300,000 drivers per year.
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Post by LUCKY☆ on Feb 8, 2020 4:45:53 GMT
The shallower the canals,the shorter the distance between depots,but the faster and cheaper the system could be put in place.a twenty foot deep canal cost way more money to build than a 3 foot deep canal.on an exponential increasing price curve.
Elons boring company could maybe do it . I don't know his rate cost and the roof would have to be blasted out after he finished ,but it would be concrete lined!
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Post by LUCKY☆ on Feb 8, 2020 5:24:09 GMT
It wouldn't be hard to grab all the farmland around houston,corpus Christi and along the southern coast of texas.theres lots of farmland in those coastal regions.spirals and straight lines.plus near big refineries.
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Post by LUCKY☆ on Feb 8, 2020 8:51:15 GMT
I was off on my depth figures.track has to stay wide for algae production and at some point salinity will kill it.as long as the bacteria is also dead by salinity then there can be retrievable oil.if bacteria survives the salinity then it will eat the oil.
finding the salinity death curve will determine how productive the track is.as the fully grown algae gets more concentrated it will starve and this increases its oil content.
the algae has to grow out in the wide part fast and odds are its only going to be half or a third of my production figures,the rest of the width is for water for evaporation.
i can still scale it small but the real long length is the trick.9 days of flow.thats 300 miles at 1.5 miles an hour,i may be able to get its flow rate down some.ugg.
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Post by LUCKY☆ on Feb 8, 2020 9:08:20 GMT
the evaporation rate is a 1/4" a day,so i can slow it down to just above that speed.thats the minumum speed limit.
that means i can adjust the length out.with shorter distance than 300miles.i still need 48 days to evaporate out most of the water.i probably need to know at what speed salinity moves at.like if one side of a water tube gets salt in it,how long does it take for the other side to register the salinity.then i would have a minumum speed limit.
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Post by LUCKY☆ on Feb 8, 2020 18:53:35 GMT
i got some factors of 480ft. per day would beat the salinity movement.thats not bad.9 days at 480 feet is not a very long triangle.
the numbers were about 25 minutes for ten feet.
so any speed over 4 inches per ft/per minute of movement should allow for an increase in salinity.
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Post by LUCKY☆ on Feb 8, 2020 21:09:58 GMT
i could use a square plot of land with a trackhoe in the middle to dig a channel around its perimeter.then contour the angle width of the channel triangle to perfect the correct flow/evaporation rate.i could use marked grade stakes in middle of channel to keep the correct grade of channel depth.these stakes would aid in mixing also.this would make it easy to bury drain pipe.
this would not be a final farm but just a test plot for engineering the triangle track form.
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Post by LUCKY☆ on Feb 8, 2020 21:29:39 GMT
9days x 480 ft.=4380ft.if it ends at one foot,then it needs to be just under 100 ft wide at entrance start from ocean.i could use zigzags and the gap between tracks could be used for trackhoe positions.
maybe the flow rate can be pretapped by hydroelectric to run the oil skimmer pump and maybe even the transesterfercation and refinery process.
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Post by LUCKY☆ on Feb 8, 2020 21:31:11 GMT
if i cut the end point down to six inches then i can cut the start point down to 50ft wide at ocean.
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Post by LUCKY☆ on Feb 8, 2020 21:36:18 GMT
50 sq ft =4.64 square meters.
4.64 x 20 grams of algae x .8 oil=74 grams of oil at a flow rate of ?
if track is 4380,then like 4/5 of a mile in 9 days=a 1/7 of 5280 ft. ,9/100 a mile a day divided by 24 hours=20ft. an hour.thats almost a 1/2 sq meter.thats 10 grams a minute of oil.600 grams of oil an hour 14400 grams a day.4.58 gallons of oil a day.
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Post by LUCKY☆ on Feb 8, 2020 21:53:16 GMT
4.58 gallons a day x 365 days=1671 gallons a year.
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Post by LUCKY☆ on Feb 8, 2020 22:09:45 GMT
a twenty foot deep channel,50 ft wide could supply 20 tracks.thats 20,000 gallons a year.
if it had opposing tracks at other end of 4380 and another channel,thats 40,000 gallons a year from a 1000+ wide by 4380ft long piece of land.thats 4,380,000 sq ft.plus trackhoe berms.the berms width could be shrunk after the true science worked out.
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Post by LUCKY☆ on Feb 8, 2020 22:18:08 GMT
a bit over 100 acres.
now to reverse engineer that.
.4 gallons per acre per day x 100acres is 40 gallons a day,x 365days in a year=14,600 gallons a year.
so my math is off somewhere.but its good to see where im at.
this most recent idea of mine is probably the most efficient idea for algae farming/bio oil processing,there is in the nation.
as long as my natural biology and physics are in the ballparks.
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Post by LUCKY☆ on Feb 9, 2020 3:50:06 GMT
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Post by LUCKY☆ on Mar 10, 2020 18:50:02 GMT
i sent these notes to saudi arabia.im thinking they may have low land at just above sea level with easy dirt to move.
im also going to give a condensed version here of what ive kinda got worked out on the most efficient process.
first sea water is used for fertilizer,mobility and ease.
next its a very long triangle of land thats 12 inches deep,flow rate is determined by entrance width.if you want more oil then a wider entrance from ocean is needed.
the end of this triangle will be right at sea also.to allow low cost for salt slurry travel back into ocean.
the salt slurry pipe is placed at the narrow end point of the triangle.
the algae grows over days and expands in the water until its dense,
the water evaporates and kills the algae.
the uv sunlight ruptures the algae cell wall.
the oil floats to the top of the salt slurry and is skimmed off.
at the same time,the salt slurry is drained back into ocean.
its flow rate is regulated by a valve control on slurry pipe.
the entire thing works off evaporation.no moving parts and ending in a pool of oil at the narrow end of triangle.
in saudi arabia,this idea may be possible.
a 100 mile wide starting inlet from ocean would create alot of oil at the end of triangle and a refinery is built there for processing.
if they have alot of ground near or just above sea level.
the trick is to dig the bare minumum amount of dirt needed,to keep cost low.
the worlds largest bio-oil farm on earth.with the triangle ending at the sea and refinery built right there,the overseas shipping port could be right there also.
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Post by LUCKY☆ on Mar 10, 2020 19:06:00 GMT
the whole triangle could be be built along the coast.
the dirt removed could be a berm along the coast.
the berm could even be used to hold oil storage tanks that are safe from storms and war.an ocean front oil depot.
they could go all out and have two triangles curved out and back to ocean rifineries and make a crescent if they fancied.with two oil ports.have a deep channel feed both from the center.
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Post by LUCKY☆ on Apr 19, 2023 10:19:15 GMT
If a self flowing river of seawater could be induced through evaporation,lithium could be mined at its end point with no outside energy source other than sun.the lithium salts should pile up and concentrate in certain zones.any low purity could be recycled.
1 gallon of lithium per one million gallons of evaporation.
A thousand foot wide river at four feet per second could easily produce 28 gallons of lithium salts every thousand seconds/ twenty minutes.84 gallons an hour.
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Post by LUCKY☆ on Apr 19, 2023 10:23:04 GMT
500 ft wide river one foot deep at 4 ft per second equals 42 gallons an hour.
250ft- 21gph,125ft-10.5gph.
10.5gph is 242 gallons of lithium salts per day in full sun.
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Post by LUCKY☆ on Apr 19, 2023 10:31:48 GMT
electrek.co/2021/06/04/scientists-have-cost-effectively-harvested-lithium-from-seawater/My mistake,i thought it was 1 ppm,its. 1 ppm. Thats 24 gallons a day of lithium. Its cheaper to skim the salt than river evaporation.the lithium can bring itself to the consumer,it doesnt need the seawater to flow the lithium,it will flow itself on the seawater surface as a means of path. I posted this here for my algae river idea.if it ever came true,lithium would be a by product of the algae river.a second source of income.
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Post by LUCKY☆ on Apr 19, 2023 10:41:44 GMT
The salt is so light,its literally the first thing you see of the ocean.its that .1 millionth salt molecule dissolved in a very thin layer on the surface.probably a millimeter deep.
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Post by LUCKY☆ on Apr 25, 2023 16:10:12 GMT
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Post by Amaterasu Solar on Apr 25, 2023 21:26:58 GMT
Except... There's no need. But They (who are taking land) hide the ways to get energy freely.
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Post by LUCKY☆ on Apr 27, 2023 16:25:19 GMT
You make that statement on your dads word alone and add no science to back it.
I respect you honoring his word but i need facts.
Ive been working on the 42/1 ratio to see what percentage oil is.its 2%.this means almost any plant can be directly converted into bio diesel.
If we find a plant with the closest ratio then its simple conversion.ash and gasses have to be remembered in the total equation but ill bet theres a plant that lands on those numbers and maybe easier than algae.
Then its just a matter of making sure the methanol conversion step stays correct.
Odds are darpa has a list of all plants ratios.that would be a very interesting chart to read.
Plant in,ash and diesel out.straight to the pump.
The worlds largest monoculture.it would suck if we found out it was bull nettle or poison ivy.
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